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Да Макс, прав си. Например, не са малко изкушилите се, които заявяват, че учението на Беинса Дуно е било актуално за своето време, но не и в момента. Без да са навлезли въобще в дълбочина и да съзнават за какво иде реч, разбира се. И без да желаят да навлязат в някава дълбочина. Така че времевият критерий според мен не може да се ползва самостоятелно и да се категоризират на негова база ученията безусловно. Всеки човек приема Божетсвеното под формата, която е подходяща за неговото съзнание. Но Божественото е важно, формата се мени и това е съвсем естествено. Божественото се проявява различно в различните форми, това също е естествено и разумно да бъде така. Можем да вземем пример в това отношение от Суфиите, как виждат проявите на Великия във всяко учение. Важно е всеки да постигне дълбочината чрез и в своя собствен път и да работи самостоятелно. Така - чрез участието си в един и същи процес - хората могат да говорят на общ език и да достигнат естествено до общо разбиране за истините. Понеже живота е общ и не зависи от ученията за него, той е обективен по същността си. Именно поради тази причина тук, в Портала, засягаме темата за фазите на развитие на човешкия дух, за инволюцията и еволюцията. И ето защо Ви приканвам - когато пишем тук - да мислим за нея и да се стремим да центрираме изказванията си към тази основна тема. За да направим един добър и полезен обмен на интересни факти и гледни точки, от които всеки който след нас го прочете, да остане доволен. За да свършим и ние нещо за тази еволюция, за която говорим тук Невъзможното за човека е възможно за Бога. Динамиката разрешава противоречията на статиката. Многомерното пространство разрешава противоречичта на тримерното...
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Георги Радев. Учителят говори Темата е наистина много обширна и значима. Ето някои източници, подходящи за начално запознаване с нея: - Еволюция на човешкия дух. Новата култура през епохата на Водолея - "Космогонията на розенкройцерите" от Макс Хайндл, издателство Алфиола, 2002
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@Благост, @Венцислав: Мога ли да задам един лингвистичен въпрос: Какво имате предвид под "Диалектика"? Понеже разпространеното значение на тази дума очевидно не съвпада с това, което вие влагате в нея (а тя се ползва само в школата на холандския клон на розенкройцерите, доколкото знам). Вероятно сте наясно с въпроса, след като я ползвате толкова често... Диалектика като понятие в неговото рапространено и общоприето значение указва към вид отношение между два и повече обекта. Това е предимно философско и научно понятие. Двата или повече от два обекта които са в диалектична връзка са взаимозависими, т.е. единият променя другият и обратно, което прави системата на техните взаимодействя необикновено сложна за описание, моделиране и прогнозиране. Това е според светското определение на термина. Постарах се да го опиша кратко и изчерпателно, без да цитирам и да си помагам с енцикопедии и речници, за да откроя смисъла. който се е запечатал в мен самия. Моля за опит за подобно кратко и изчерпателно обяснение на значението на този термин, което влагате при неговото ползване. Благодаря предварително!
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@ Синева Да, доколкото ми е известно във Ведите също се засягат еволюционните цикли. Но в дадения от теб цитат не мога да намеря нещо пряко по темата, освен че Ведите и Упанишадите са намерени от европейците за наистина ценни. Ще съм благодарен, ако дадеш (не веднага, разбира се) конкретни цитати, по които да направим паралел по темата "Инволюция и Еволюция" между източните свещени традиции и схващанията на съвременните западни окултни учения.
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Здравейте, бих желал да се включа на тази интересна тема. От постинга на Макс разбирам, че инволюцията се схваща приблизително като синоним на "влошаване", а еволюцията - на "подобряване" в духовен аспект. Тези термини - доколкото ми е известно - не се разбират по този начин от съвременните западни окултни школи. Ще се опитам да внеса някаква яснота накратко, и ще посоча литература за тези, които считат въпроса за наистина важен за себе си. Много школи не им отдават голямо значение. Това е един от белезите по които изтока и запада се различават. Първо, инволоцията не е "лоша" и еволюцията не е "добра". Това са обективно обусловени глобални полярни процеси, в които човечеството като цяло и в частност всеки от нас е включен. Докато понятието "еволюция" както се разбира в науката "биология" има предвид видимите промени на физическите тела само, понятието "Еволюция", дадено в западните окултни школи, има предвид превъплащенията и трнасформациите на човешкият дух. В Царството на Живата Природа. Статии. // Мултимедиен компактдиск Петър Дънов. София, Издателска къща „Хелиопол“, 1998. Инволюцията - образно казано - е процес на материализиране, въплъщаване на духа. Духът си изработва тяло и посредством него получава питности, недостъпни за него в по-фините светове, от които е слязъл. Това има велик смисъл за него. За да се изкачи, духът първо трябва да слезе. И после се изкачва, но много помъдрял, самостоятелен и активен вече. И всички жертви които той е направил му се изплащат многократно... Еволюцията означава процес на връщане на Духа към своят първоизточник. Еволюцията предполага инволюция преди това. Инволюцията е ограничаване на Бога, докато Еволюцията - разширяване. Инволюцията има за задача индивидуалното развите и в частост развитие ма ума. И не случайно 5-тата коренна раса е неин продукт - индивида там се е развил и е достигнал до своето съвършенство, а умът и интелекта е издигнат в култ. Докато еволюцията има за задача вече израбтване на колективна, на обществена култура. НО: която да почива въру добре развили се в предишният етап индивиди. Култура не на подтискане на личността за сметка на обществото, а култура на синергия и хармония. Това е в най-общи черти. Западните окултни школи дават и много детайли по темата - етапи, раси, приблизителни исторически периоди, прогнози и др.п. Препоръчвам за справка по темата този източник. Също така и "Космогонията на розенкройцерите" от Макс Хайндл, издателство Алфиола, 1993. (това са американските розенкройцери, не холандските) От направеното изложение е видно, че всички сме преминали през етапа на инволюция и че всички ще преминем през етапа на еволюция. Поради огромните периоди от време, които обхваща този исторически процес, за мащабите му е трудно да се говори, а прогнозите са непосилни от текущото човешко ниво. Според мен - само мое мнение - все пак съществуват ясни и формализуеми критерии за инволюционен и еволюционен характер на процесите, от наша гледна точка. Това е критерият за ролята на личността и личната свобода. В периода на инволюцията личната свобода и личността не са имали оосбено висока стойност. Групата е била всичко. Към началото на еволюционният период те добиват и постепенно увеличават стойността си. Тогава Човекът е станал всичко и е извоювал своята автономност и самосъзнание. И сега тези осъзнати и силни личности процеса на еволюцията ще ги обедини, когато приключи. Но не механично и на цената на ограничението, а органично и чрез постигане на синергия помежду им.
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Здравейте, Въпросът изисква задълбочено познаване на историята и учението на Беинса Дуно. Налице е подходяща литература за целта за тези, които истински се интересуват. Отговори в размер на два реда са обречени на несериозност. Учителя - доколкото знам - активно е предпазвал учениците си да го издигат в култ и да се изолират чрез учението му от реалността по какъвто и да било начин. В същото време, Учителят е имал ясно съзнание и представа за своята мисия и задачи на Земята, както и за своето положение в духовната йерархия.
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Донка, нещо по=конкретно, което намерих от беседата сродните души:
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Здравей Донка, Аз също не съм срещал беседа, коята да дава директно такива детайли. Мога да ти посоча тази (Сродните души), а за по-подробно изследване на темата в Словото: (тук). Връзката на Словото с Живота е задача на ученика. И очевидно това не е нито тривиално, нито лесно и еднозначно. Затова и Учението има индивидуално приложение предимно...
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Източник: беседата Връзвайте и развързвайте!, 24 март 1940 г.
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The Mindful Heart Lecture given by the Master Beinsa Douno in the General occult class on April 2, 1924, Sofia Ten minutes in silence. Topic for next time: "Qualities of the new man(1)". Every work, every good enterprise in the world rests not on shaky, but on firm and solid basis. Under that I mean a basis that does not change, it remains constant and same in all conditions. This basis is alive. Suppose now that as you live on Earth, your basis is earthly bound. This means you rely on your personality. However, after death, on what basis will you put your life? So, you see Earth is not a real basis, upon which one can rely on. Which then is the real basis? – The real basis we call "the mindful human heart." I do not speak about the heart that belongs to the man of our age, but about the mindful heart of the Divine man. Apostle Paul said: "Physical men cannot understand the nature of spiritual things, as they have to be understood in spiritual way." You have to set your life on a new course, based on the guidances of your mindful heart. The Spirit of God operates and acts in it. And there are no exceptions in the actions of this mindful heart. When one lives according to its dictates, one makes no mistakes or all mistakes are immediately avoided. Mistakes in the world come from one's objective mind. It is the earthly mind of today, by means of which one thinks. When a good thought comes to you, you start thinking how to apply it and so you lose the conditions. We often say that if someone goes into the water, he is in danger of drowning. He must either know how to swim or he will have to learn how to swim. I ask in which school has the little duck able to swim immediately after hatching, learnt the art of swimming? It learnt that art thousands of years ago. Therefore, there is one Divine element in the human mind. We call it Divine Spirit that acts reasonably without exceptions. And when we listen to the inner voice (I call it "the mindful heart"), our thoughts differ from the ordinary ones. You can make a simple experiment. If you use your brain, you have to think a long time on a given issue until you reach some conclusions; you have to make a research of one, two, three, five, ten or more years. For example, you ask yourselves what the weather will be like on Monday. You start thinking and you say: "It will be nice." Good, you will be able to check. After that you will ask yourselves whether the weather will be absolutely clear or half clear, whether it will be cloudy or rainy, etc. You have to ask this question clearly in your mind, and you will notice during these experiments that hardly a hundredth percent of what your mind tells you turns out to be true. It was a suggestion that the weather would be nice. However, should you ask your mindful heart what the weather will be like on Monday, it will give you the answer with absolute precision. There are no suggestions this time. When you consider, the Divine stops its guidance. When you think with your mindful heart, you will feel a pleasant sense in the pit of the stomach. Then each one of you can say: "The weather will be such and such." Ask yourselves, for example, how you will spend this year of your life – well or not so well. If your mind gives the answer, it will give you either some of the most beautiful projects or some of the most gloomy ones. However, if you ask your mindful heart, it will give you a positive answer. More over, it will foresee should you go through difficulties and will give you the right directions to overcome them in the best way. This mindful heart also contains your good habits. Everyone has good habits. These appear earlier in some people and later in others. For example, you see a poor widow in the street; an incitement comes to you to do good; you thrust your hand in your pocket, but then immediately you start philosophising and say to yourself: "I have money, but I will need it today; I will do that good some other day." If you think like this, you have already made the first mistake. It will not be long after and you will have to pay a ten times higher fee for not realising these lovely Divine inspirations. Consequently, always obey the Divine voice that speaks in you. When this Divine feeling speaks in us, it is an exam in our life. God examines us. We shall fully obey Him! When you receive Divine promptings, fulfill them! For the good you do, you will not have to give your entire fortune; it is a small service. If a child should fall in the street and break its leg; what will cost you to take it, to bring it to your home and to help it? You will hardly lose half an hour. But you say: "I have an important job to do." Misery in our life is due to the fact that we do not listen to the good incitements and good habits that are lodged inside our hearts. We stop to ponder over a number of philosophical considerations, think and conclude that we may arrange our lives by ourselves. The first delusion is to think that we may arrange our lives by ourselves. Your life, according to the mindful heart, is already arranged. All the conditions, in which you are to live, all the people whom you have to meet and be influenced by, everything is predetermined. And it will happen as it is determined. The entire Heaven works upon us in this direction. We do not live in the world but God does. Consequently, every good deed is a manifestation of God, Who is in us. And when we counteract to a good Divine thought, we create our misfortune in the world. With the good habits that you possess, you are not required to take up the whole burden of the world. I have told you previously that every good thought is connected to thousands of other good thoughts. Do not think that if you do not fulfill a good thought, God has not foreseen this. He foresees everything, but you lose the good conditions. Each time you fail to respond to a good thought, it degrades you and takes you a step down, thus making your life harder. When you refuse to respond to any kind of good thought, you downgrade yourself, your condition becomes harder and harder until your will will be paralysed. You then become a toy exposed to Fortune, i.e. to external conditions. These conditions have arisen, because you have not listened to your mindful heart. How can we tell that the mindful heart acts? – When the mindful heart acts in us, a certain expansion takes place in our souls. When you do the smallest good, you feel an inner satisfaction akin to acquiring the entire world. You only have to be aware of one thing: when you do an act of good, do not speak of it. Once you express it outwardly, you set yourselves a trap. Whilst doing good, you already have the approval of God and as a result you feel happy. Thus you do not have to recommend yourselves, but God recommends you. Let us imagine that you have saved someone from drowning; after pulling him out of the water, do not wait for him to pay you back. Leave, let him look for you. If you write in the newspapers that you have saved this and that person from death, the good that you have accomplished is lost by half. The moral power possessed by the disciples who follow the Divine teaching lies in their absolute faith in God. We may not know where Heaven is, where God lives, how far He is from us, we can only feel God. An English preacher said: "I do not know where Heaven is, but once I begin to pray to God, secretly in my soul, I feel the works of the Divine Spirit." So, God hears him immediately. And that is the most important: the moment we turn our spirit to God, He hears us. The prophet was right when he said that God did not live in Heaven, but in the hearts of the humble people. Who are these meek people? – I answer: they are the people of the mindful heart. If all of you had listened to your mindful hearts, the quarrels that appear from time to time amongst you would have vanished. Take for example, some of your bad habits: sometimes you lose your patience and that is due to the reasoning of your philosophical mind suggesting that you have been insulted. How is one's dignity manifested? – The dignity of someone is manifested in the fulfillment of the Will of God, in the use of the smallest of one's virtues. You might have won the biggest battles, you might have risen an entire people, but if one day your heart tells you to tie the shoe of an old person and you do not obey, all that has been done before will be of no use. To tie the shoe of an old person brings a greater reward than to win a battle. Now I will give you an example with two hermits who lived for twenty years in the desert, constantly praying to God. One day one of them saw his friend jumping at a certain place and running away. He wondered what had frightened him so much that he had to run. He went to the spot and saw a pot full of gold. He said to himself: "What a silly person is he to run away from a pot of gold!" He took out the gold, went to Alexandria and with it he built a large inn; he helped the poor, spent everything and kept nothing for himself. After this he went back to the desert and prayed God to tell him if He was pleased with him. An angel appeared to him and told him that all his good deeds did not equal the jumping of his brother. Consequently, if we consider what our present objective mind can do from the time of our childhood to the time when we pass away and weigh it, the total will not weigh as much as one of the smallest acts performed by the mindful heart. It is also mentioned in the Scriptures that David thought with his heart. Therefore, he thought with this mindful heart. That is what is required of all of you, now. In he second stage of your life good conduct is already required, i.e. you have to know how you should behave towards one another. For example, should you want to make a remark to someone, do so, but make it from the point of Love, the same way you would do it to yourself. When you make a remark to yourself, how do you act? Do you condemn yourself harshly? You soften the conditions, don't you? Why should we not behave towards the others in the way we treat ourselves? Consequently, we shall take out the Truth in Love. When we correct the mistakes of a brother, we shall do it with Love, so that he may feel that it is an act of Love and not a gloating over a mistake of his. The first thing that people lack nowadays is nobility. For example, you quarrel from time to time about your seats in class. Some ask me: "Don't we have the right to listen in the front row?" Who are the noblest ones – they who sit in front or the ones who sit at the back? If you are a person, who says a loving word and fulfills the Will of God, take the first chair! If you are a person, who says the coarsest word, sit last! Even if you are called to sit in front, say: "Brothers, I am not worthy of the first seat. I will sit behind and gradually I will come towards the first chairs." You say: "Let us sit in front!" I will be happy if you sit in front, but you should know that I consider these first rows. They shall be the rows of Divine Love, so that whoever you meet there, you shall emit the kindheartedness, the tenderness, the power that makes you able to help one another. You may tell me now: "Yes, but these are our hereditary traits." This is a lie; the hereditary traits present a fabrication of yours. God placed Good, good habits, mindful hearts in you at the time of your creation; you had them when you came out of God. Consequently, in any case you have an equal number of opportunities to be good or to be bad. I have previously said what is evil. Evil always results from our refusal to do Good. The evil is uncompleted good. Take two disciples getting cross with one another, they insult themselves in some way and that is quite natural. How will they resolve that insult? If one of them says to himself: "Wait, I will act in line with my reasonable heart" and the other says the same, if both of them react in this way, their argument will be resolved. What is there for you to divide? What is there for you to divide in this world? Is it not best to have Divine Love? That, which gives power to our minds, to our hearts, to our wills, that is God, Who confined Himself in order to live in us. There is One God in the world, Who confined Himself because of us. That is the greatest glory of God. If you neglect this sacrifice, which God has made to enter in the human heart, you are createing conditions for death. Death comes from there. We die and resurrect every day. If you decide from now on to be faithful to the great law of Divine manifestation, do you know what change will take place in you? If you observe the Divine law, no matter what kind of person you meet on the road, even the worst one, when you stop and look at him, God will smile to you through him. You will say: "I recognized Him!" God is hidden somewhere very deep even in bad people. These people are bad, because they do not live well. When the roads of a country are getting damaged, who is guilty – the roads or the people? The people who do not repair the roads. So, in the present living conditions with our disobedience to the inner great law we have come to the situation, in which the entire contemporary Christian world is suffering. Mildness of manners is a requisite! Someone said that death shone from the faces of the disciples here present. I do not know whether death can shine, but what I know is that our faces shall not breathe death but Life. Now, when I speak about the mindful heart, you should know that sufferings shall touch you deeply, so that you may grow. One shall be shaken to the bottom of his soul. Effects that hardly touch your surface are not necessary, it is similar to the movement of some waves that reach only about ten meters of the sea surface. You need radical change. We must possess the character of Abraham. Abraham was childless. Under the Jewish law one of his servants or one of his sons from his woman slaves would become his heir.. However, God told him that He would give him an heir. Who was the heir of Abraham? Isaac. His father and his mother had one bright idea. God told Abraham: "You will sacrifice your son." If you were in Abraham's position, would you have said "Let the will of God be"? He took his son, put some wood on his back and went exactly to the place where he was told to make the sacrifice. Till the last moment he was on trial. When he lifted the knife, God told him: "I see that you were an obedient person, that is why you will not sacrifice your son." This quality of Abraham is worthy of praises. That is why Abraham is called a friend of God. I call him the father of believers, because he is a person of absolute faith, a person surmounting any doubt. Of course, you will apply this Teaching according to your place in Life. You will taste God and He will test you. He will examine you as He did Abraham, the apostles, the prophets. All of you will go through Fire, seven times you will go through Fire. When I tell you this, you become afraid. One shall go seven times through the Divine Fire! It is the biggest blessing. It is the sacred Fire of Love that will purify your minds and your hearts, so that you may understand the Good in God and how you shall fulfill it. You should never be in a hurry. No matter what you do, do not be in a hurry. Some of you are traders, they get entangled in accounts, have no money; they go home to squeeze their heads and fall into despair. Do not squeeze your head! When you go home, sit and turn your mind to God, to your mindful heart, listening to what it will tell you to do in any situation. You will always receive an answer. You are a mother, you have a disobedient daughter, do not shout at her, do not ask her to do this and that, but turn to your mindful heart and ask it what you must do. One, two, three, four days might pass – but the best answer for your question will come in due course. You are a teacher or you are a servant somewhere, you are a student, no matter what your position is, never be in a hurry. I will give you an example, which proves that those who have faith always save themselves. Two hundred and fifty – three hundred officers were sentenced to death by the Bolsheviks. The Bolsheviks went to one of the officers and asked him: "Do you believe in God?" – "No, I do not believe." They shot at him and killed him. They went to the second, third, fourth officer and always asked the same question: "Do you believe in God" – "No, we do not believe." Finally, they asked another one: "Well, do you believe in God" – "Yes, I believe!" And he crosses himself. At last one was found who believed in God. "Come on, leave, you do not deserve to be killed." They set him free. Why? – God whispered to one of them: "Leave this one, he is My man!" That person believed in his mindful heart and listened to his inner voice. I can give you many examples about the advice of the mindful heart, but these examples have power only if they are applied. I know how hard it is for you to apply a rule! When one gets angry, doubt and hesitation come immediately. You can doubt in everything in the world, but never doubt in God! Be ready to sacrifice yourselves because of that great Love – because of the Lord, Who wills to limit Himself in order to come to live in us! Be ready to sacrifice everything for Him in every situation! That is what made Christ exceptional. "I came to do the will of the One Who has sent Me," Christ said. Finally, when they told Him that He should bear the cross of sufferings, He said: "I will do everything that My Father has told Me." Christ possessed knowledge, He also had power. He used to say: "Can't I ask one or two legions of angels to come and release Me? I can, but I will not do that. I prefer disgrace, suffering, torture, but all of it will be for the sake of My brothers." That is Divine Will! Where is Divine Love? – In obedience. Some day in the future there will not be suffering. Christ will not be crucified in the world again. Why? – Well, there is not such a big tree, on which to crucify Him. There is not such a big tree, which to carry that Christ, Who is living today in the hearts of five hundred million people. He is so powerful, and His power will develop even more. We may dispose with this power too. That is why Christ said: "Everything you ask in My name, it will be". In whose name? – In the name of Love of God, in the name of the mindful heart that is lodged in us. If you open your mindful heart, Christ will come and live in it. I speak to you, but I cannot impose rules on you. I want one thing from you: please, compete in paying respect to one another. That is the first thing to do. You have enough philosophy, you are even good professors. You can hold lectures, you can deliver moral talks to others, you can interpret the Gospel, but what you need above all is to apply. The hardest thing is application. It is required from all of you. Whoever succeed in applying, will pass into the second phase. Whoever listen to their mindful hearts can be spoken to. You can rely on your good habits. You should know that in all there are good habits. I will prove to you that this is true in the following way: if I insult you, you will show me what I did wrong. You will tell me: "You had to be a bit softer." As long as you reflect morality to me – you have a good habit, you know how to behave. As long as you can spell morality to me – you understand good habits. Why can't you also behave accordingly? We all know how we should behave. If so, why can't we apply it in Life? We can apply it! So, everyone without exceptions can apply it. If two thousand years after Christ we say that we cannot live pure Christian life, shame on us! I listened to you before the lecture, and heard a brother saying: "Brothers, let us pray!" I would like only one of you to pray, not all of you. One of you can do the whole job. How many engine drivers are needed to drive a train? – One. If all become engine drivers, there will be quarrels. One engine driver is enough; he will get into the driving seat of the machine, while all the rest will sit in the compartments and the work will get going. That good heart will act, that lever will consider the great Divine law, while all the rest will sit in the compartments quietly and calmly. You will say: "But couldn't he make a mistake." The history that we know from thousands years says that all those who were led by their mindful hearts have acted reasonably. They have never created any kind of accident. That is why the psalm-writer said: "I was young and I grew old, but I did not see the righteous to beg. I did not see someone with mindful heart to beg, to have gone out to profanation". If some times the righteous were subject of profanation, it was due to the simple reason that they wanted to help their brothers. So, now you will appeal to your good habits lodged in you, to your mindful hearts. And after that you will appeal to Christ, to that living Christ Whom I call the Son of Love, the Only Teacher in the world. We know that He is Christ, but He has a sacred Name that we do not dare to pronounce. When I address Him, I say: "Lord, with Your Name, by which You are Known in Heaven, let it be Your Will!" Compete in paying respect! It is a necessity for the Bulgarians. The Bulgarians are the rudest people among all Slavs. Confess acceptance to that, there is no shame in it. It is not bad to be rude, but smoothing is necessary. In order to smooth it out, you shall compete in Divine Love. That Love will improve you. And then, like a mussel, you will transform your rudeness into a pearl. First you will start with good behavior. I constantly hear some of you saying: "The Master is more benevolent towards some, towards others – he is less." You think in a fleshly manner. One cannot be benevolent on the outside. Divine Love acts in one and the same way towards everyone. It acts in a single and same way towards everyone, but not everyone is able to reveal Divine Love in a single and same way. Consequently, your souls differ in their openness and that is why God manifests more strongly to the more developed ones. However you should all know that you have one and the same opportunity. There is no difference in the way in which God treats an angel, a human being, a plant or the last smallest pebble. I have in mind not the external physical world, but the living stones and plants in Heaven, where they can speak and are alive. So, all of you have to reveal your good habits! I would also like you to avoid rudeness and quarrels amongst you. These violate Divine Love. All people complain, saying: "We need Love." Well, Love is amongst you, just reveal it! Who is wrong when you have a closed tap and the water is unable to flow through it? Is the water wrong or are you the culprit? Open the tap and your mindful heart will immediately let these sources flow out. The first thing for both young and old is to compete in paying respect. Disciples who are not able to respect one another, also cannot respect their Master. Disciples who do not live well among themselves, also do not honor their Master. The Lord is not pleased with those who do not listen to Him. The hearts of all shall be ready to do the Will of God. When all accomplish the Will of God out of Love, His kingdom will come. Then all will rejoice. We can begin, starting from tonight. No, tonight is a day. We can turn the night into a day. Now, I want you to remember the following thought: each of you shall decide on his own how to relate to others instead of considering how others relate to him. That is the main issue. You begin vice versa. No, each one of you, from his point of view shall solve how he relates to others and whether his behavior is pleasing to the Lord. I do not say that the Lord is not pleased, because if I said this, it is judging. You can correct all your mistakes. Tonight the Lord will take all our sins and will throw them behind His back. That will happen instantly. It will bring a new state: the rebirth of humanity and a new uplift of the human spirit. The person that is reborn is free from torments, being happy and joyful. That can happen as early as tonight. You can solve this question even tonight. Those who are ready shall not postpone. And those who are not ready, shall wait for their time to come. Those who are ready, they can instantly solve that issue. The God of Love is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living. ------- 1) Man – the Bulgarian word chovek signifies a thinking and conscious human, without reference to gender. The current translation uses English equivalents such as person and one wherever possible. In certain instances the word man is used instead. The use of man, he, his, him in reference to chovek are used to facilitate the reading of the text, however they should be interpreted as an indication of both the feminine and masculine genders. This lecture is a part of a twelve selected lectures. You can download all talks from here Translated by Martina Iovcheva Edited by Maria Braikova Wb_translation_team@mail.bg Person for contact: Anelia Kuzmanova Note: This Team was created in Bulgaria in 2002 to work for spreading the Teaching given by Beinsa Douno - Peter Deunov /1864-1944/. We are pleased to share this Word with you in English, French, German and Spanish. All our members work for free and on a voluntary basis. We will appreciate any assistance, especially in editing, publishing and distributing these translations.
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THE TWO PATHS Lecture 1, given by the Master Beinsa Douno in the Youth occult class, on February 24, 1922 Sofia Secret prayer What are students thinking as they begin to study? Students want to be educated, to acquire knowledge, to develop that which is in their souls, minds and hearts. And after they have acquired knowledge and have developed their talents and abilities, they are obliged to preserve them. Good soil is required for this so that every thought which falls on it may bear fruit. You also want to study like students and to deal with science. But what is the meaning of the word "science"? If we consider the meaning of the letters of this word, written in Latin and in some of the Slavic languages, we see two different notions hidden in the spelling. The letter combination of the word written in the Slavic languages indicates that in science the Slavs seek a method of balancing contradictions in Life. The Anglo-Saxon race, however, uses the Latin word "scientia" to mark the notion of "knowledge", "science" and this letter configuration indicates that it is interested in studying the links between different forms and the continuous changes taking place in Living Nature. The first letter "s" in the word "scientia" designates infinity. Consequently, from an occult point of view, you can study science with the purpose either of finding a method which can help you to reconcile contradictions in Life or of finding a way to use the forces of Nature. Those who deal with science in order to use the natural forces are submitted to a big danger. The danger is in the appearance of the sacred egotism in them. They place themselves higher than others, getting greater authority in their own eyes, so they say: "We possess powers which we can use as we wish." There are two categories of people: people who have strong personal feelings and self-confidence: they think that they can do anything, they know many things, etc. However, the other category of people, like the Slavs for example, seek a method of balancing the contradictions in their lives and of healing the pains of their hearts at the same time. The Slavs are closer to Truth in this aspect. If you want to deal with esoteric science, you have to study yourself first. Socrates said: "Know yourself!" What does this mean "Know yourself!" What should you know - the High or the low in you? To know yourself means to know the High or the Divine Source in you. In other words, to know God in you. Once you know God in you, you will be aware of the conditions in which you can grow and develop properly; the conditions which give direction to your growth and development and also balance the forces acting in you. Consider a person who was living well, his mind and heart were developing properly and everyone expected him to become someone. But all of a sudden an accident happened to him and his form was completely destroyed. What was the reason for this misfortune? It was the master who had made this form. Many will say that it is fate. If a potter has made a tilted, half-baked pot, who is to be blamed? - The potter himself. What could he do then? - He will break the pot into pieces, knead it in slurry and make a new pot, but this time the pot will be better, firmer and well baked. Consequently, when the High smashes the low forms, remaking and remodeling them, it produces more beautiful, more perfect forms of them. What else could be done with the pots that are not well carved except to destroy them, so that they would be remade and molded in new, more resistant and perfect forms? Young people often think that they are wiser than old people and they say about them: "Their time is over, we have to show them how to live now." But the present old people said exactly the same in the past. And the young people at that time did not approve their way of living and thought they could improve on it. But they also grew old without correcting their ways. Thus young generations go one after another, trying to show the old people how to live without any success. Why? - Because they use the same old methods as the old people. I say, fundamental tasks in Life cannot be solved by old methods. Young people should try not to repeat the errors of old people. They should learn from their experience and see their omissions hampering them in Life. The reasons for their failures are many and profound. They present an entire history that should be studied and researched. I shall give you a topic now to think on it. It is the following: "The Most Rational Method for Work." Each one of you has to think of the most rational method for yourself. Esoteric science is based on experience; knowledge is valuable only when it is used in Life. In fact, application determines your position as disciples. When someone wants to study violin in the musical school, they are tested on violin playing and depending on their results they are put in a certain class. If someone turns out to be mediocre, the violin professor will advise them to enroll in another school, so that they may not lose their time. In one of my next lectures I shall speak about the intelligent relationships between humanity and Living Nature. But before that you have to state openly your opinion on the topic: "The Best or the Most Rational Method for Work." It is a privilege, an extraordinary occasion for you to speak openly on a given topic. From an occult point of view, the best method is that one which is applicable in real Life. If a given method cannot be applied, it leads you astray from your goal; it brings you somewhere far away from what you are aiming for without any real results for you. Since you are not at one and the same level of development, each one of you will present a specific method for work which is applicable in your life. Some of you are materialists-idealists: they give priority to the material in Life; others are idealists-materialists: they give priority to ideas. This is the main difference between persons. The idealists say that ideas create everything. What ideas do they have in mind? They certainly do not consider their own ideas. There are ideas of higher order than the human ones. These ideas are coming from the Infinite Divine Source. So, you should learn in this School to apply the methods of Nature. You should use the forces of Living Nature in the same way as flowers use the sunrays. Then you will be able to fulfill what you were born for. This law also has an application in the human body. Each organ of the human organism has a specific function. For example, legs walk and in meantime carry the total weight of the body; hands work - they catch, lift, put different things; eyes see; ears hear, etc. Consequently, each organ executes a specific function in the human body. In this aspect, everyone represents a special organ in the common organism of Nature and has to fulfill his specific function. Those who have found their place in Nature and have realized their destination can properly execute their function as organs of the great Divine organism. You are disciples in this School and may raise questions which you consider important. However, you may raise questions concerning your needs. For example, what is a hungry person interested in? - Bread. A hungry person wants to know everything about the bread they will have: whether it is warm or cold, fresh or mould. If you want to create a solid foundation for yourself, you should apply the same law to gaining knowledge. You, who are young, should not repeat the mistake of that Gypsy man, who ate first vine leaves to his fill and after that some bread and cheese. He went to the vineyard to work there and took some bread and a piece of cheese in his bag for breakfast. After some work he got very hungry. He looked at the bread and the cheese and saw that they would hardly satisfy his hunger. So he picked some vine leaves and started eating them. After that he also ate the bread and the cheese and said: "Excellent lunch!" No, I do not advise you first to swallow the vine leaves and then to have a bite of esoteric knowledge. Be cautious to avoid this mistake! No mistakes are allowed in your work. If you make a mistake, correct it! It is not a crime that you have admitted some mistakes, but that you leave them uncorrected. When you realize a mistake of yours, correct it. There is nothing criminal in some bad thoughts passing through your mind, but each twisted thought of yours should be straightened. The efforts of your minds, hearts and wills should be directed to the correction of your mistakes. Only in this way will you create reliable characters. You should also consider the following thing: when students enter the school, the teacher is kind and attentive to them in the beginning. The more they learn and the harder the material gets, the more the teacher requires from them and especially from those ones who do not study enough. So, the teacher changes his attitude towards the students who do not make sufficient effort. The first obligation of disciples is to study. So, you have study and to study seriously. Each science has its own rules that you should know and observe. Self-control is demanded from young people - not fictitious, external, but real self-control. There are two types of self-control: external, fictitious self-control, when your internal balance is usually disturbed; and internal, profound self-control, when your balance has never been broken. I shall give you an example for external self-control. A young man got engaged to a beautiful, young woman who was noble and self-controlled. He often praised her to his friends. One day he invited a friend to her place to introduce her. They sat and talked for a while. Then the fiancée brought a tray with glasses of water and sweets to treat them. The young man tripped her on purpose in order to see her reaction. As she held the tray, everything fell on the ground, the sweets and the water scattered on the floor. The fiancée kept full self-control and said: "It is all right!" She calmly bent down, gathered the glasses, rubbed out the water and went into the other room. The young man turned to his friend and said: "That is self-control and nobleness of character! That is an ideal woman!" However, when they got married, things did not go the way he thought. Once he asked her: "Where did your self-control go?" "You had to enter the other room to see what happened there. Only the wood of the table could tell you how hard I had chewed it!" I say, this is not real self-control. Someone wants to open the window: they pull it, but it does not open; they pull it a second, a third time - it does not open again. They get nervous, angry and start pulling it harder and harder, as if the window is guilty of something. First of all, the window is not conscious, it cannot understand if somebody is irritated. The same is true for the esoteric forces: some of them are conscious and intelligent, others are half-conscious and unreasonable. When I say that some forces are intelligent, it means that they have the same direction of movement as ours. The unconscious forces go in the opposite direction. Consequently, each one of you should know if a given force goes in compliance with his development. In the same way you should consider whether your thoughts, feelings and actions go in line with your development. When you come across some thought or feeling, you should immediately look into it to decide where to put it - to the left or to the right. Disciples should know how to sort out and where to put each of their thoughts, feelings and actions. Some disciples will succeed in this field twenty-five percent, others - fifty percent, a third group - seventy-five and the most capable ones - a hundred percent. Disciples should work to increase this percentage gradually, so that they can avoid mistakes and delusions. We should go to experience after each lesson. It means that you will be put to the test after each lesson which is taught: not only theoretical, but also practical tests. Theoretical knowledge is to be used in Life, where it can be developed and tested. Whoever wants to deal with occultism should know that they will be submitted to certain trials and tests, which they have to solve successfully. You say: "We have difficulties anyway." Yes, but this time you will realize the meaning of these difficulties. And realizing it, you will be able to use them as a healing method. For example, someone complains of pains all over their body: in their hands and legs, in their backbone, they also have a headache and their stomach is upset. The Invisible world will create one bigger pain from all these pains, so that they will direct their full attention to it. This big pain will make them treat themselves properly. They will forget about the small pains and will start working intensively in one direction. So, great difficulties unite the human forces into one focus. Otherwise, there is energy dispersion and scattering of the forces in man. Nature acts in the same way. She will create one big pain for you, in which everything else will be healed. But you have not come to the big pains yet. After a reflection on the topic I gave you, you should write as concisely as possible: only on the core of the idea. Each one of you should write about their personal method for work. The scientific references to the theme are not so important for you; they could correspond to your understanding or could not correspond. What is important for you is to align your work with the methods of Intelligent Nature, not with the methods of ordinary scientists. Only in this way will you grasp the common principles of Life. So, each one of you will work and will apply the method that they know best of all and that is specific just for you. It depends on your awareness, your sincerity in work and your deep striving for a valuable achievement. Many of you will say that they do not have good conditions for work. The Americans are first in this aspect. In America you will meet students who work in kitchens and offices to afford their school or university studies. It is good when favorable conditions are available in Life, but all conditions should be reasonably used. Even in the hardest conditions you may find ten or fifteen minutes for reading and self-education. What hampers a housewife from reading something while she is cutting onions and cooking? Both good and bad conditions aim at putting disciples into a position where they may overcome difficulties. Only thus will they grow and develop in the right way. This lecture is a part of a twelve selected lectures. You can download all talks from here Translated by Doroteia Koparanova, Malinka Koparanova and Steftcho Koparanov Edited by Maria Braikova and Jana Rupchina Wb_translation_team@mail.bg Person for contact: Anelia Kuzmanova Note: This Team was created in Bulgaria in 2002 to work for spreading the Teaching given by Beinsa Douno - Peter Deunov /1864-1944/. We are pleased to share this Word with you in English, French, German and Spanish. All our members work for free and on a voluntary basis. We will appreciate any assistance, especially in editing, publishing and distributing these translations.
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Любовта която е обвързана с условности ни обременява (натоварва ни кармично), докато безусловната любов ни прави свободни. Безусловната любов не поражда кармичен товар, а напротив - намалява го.
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Здравей Мираколи, Мда... много и сериозни въпроси задаваш, наистина! На сериозните въпроси всеки от нас е длъжен да намери своя отговор сам, без външна помощ. След това да го приложи и изпита в живота. Това е накратко процеса на Придвижването в Пътя. Табута между сродните души не съществуват, поради Божествената хармония, която цари в техните отношения. Привличането им се основава изключително на връзки от чист и извисен порядък и там плътската връзка играе много малка роля сама по себе си. Сродните души много рядко се срещат в плът на Земята, което обаче не им създава никакви негативни последствия от типа на изброените. Често отношенията на платонична любов са давани за пример като проявление на Божествената Любов между хората. Прегради пред общуването с любимия човек съществуват в много случаи в живота и далеч не само в описаният. Тогава човек е изправен пред вътрешни и лични драми, които следва да разреши разумно и успешно с оглед на бъдещето. Това са част от задачите, които имаме да разрешаваме. Тук съветите сами по себе си не са достатъчни. Нужно е едно сериозно и смело отношение към Живота, и много самостоятелност и желание за действие. В Библията е казано: "Има приятел, по-близък и от брат...". Любовта притежава много и разнообразни форми. Формата на любовта между мъжа и жената е само една от многото и възможни проявления. Моля, потърси съответните теми по този въпрос, развити вече в Портала, ако това представлява интерес. Ако някой предпочита да очаква готово решение отвън, дадено от друг човек, с повече опит и по-знаещ, то той никога няма да бъде свободен в истниският смисъл на тази дума. По-точно казано: той никога няма да бъде и да живее себе си. Еднообразието на човешкото битие внася еднообразие в нашето мислене. Еднообразното мислене води до представата (илюзията) за безизходност и безсмислие. Изходът от това положение е човек да живете в разнообразието и във вечното обновяване. Според една китайска пословица: "От всяко безисходно положение има поне 13 изхода!"
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Здравей Благост, Накрако за тази книга: Според мен тезата на Фром тук основно сичи към извода, че човека като личност не е зрял за своята свобода. Под различни форми и по различни причини той избягва да бъде свободен. Най-често незабелязано и неосъзнавано, под влияние на това което "е редно"и на което е бил приучен от обществените норми и механизми. Което нашето потребителски ориентирано общество приема радушно, не отчитайки възникващата опасност за него самото. Латентните психични сили в човека, жадуващи за самоизява и свободна реализация, се насочват в алтернативни посоки. Човек прибягва до дейности - заместители, до ценности - заместители. Човек бяга от себе си и от собствената си свобода. Бяга от самият себе си като същност. И го прави напълно "разумно' и "логично", "обществено полезно и приемливо"... Нормално за неговото неосъзнато състояние, според мен. Специфичното при Фром е моста, който построява между личност и общество. Показва връзката която съществува между света вътре и света вън от нас. Между малкото и голямото. Между индивидуалното и социалното. В тази книга Фром идентифицира основната болест на съвременното западно общество. В други свои произведения: в "Да имаш или да бъдеш" и в "Изкуството да бъдеш" Фром представя своят план за лечение - на човека като индивидуалност, а оттам и на нашите общества. Забележителен и любим за мен автор!
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Да, изключително ценна книга и според мен
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In The Beginnig Was Sunday lecture given by Beinsa Douno November 8, 1914 Sofia In the beginning was the Word, And the Word was with God, And the Word was God. (John 1:1) This is the hardest nut to crack and the most philosophical question in Christianity. This verse has been disputed many times and interpreted in many different ways by philosophers, preachers, and believers. There were disputes about the Word in the Orthodox Church as well, and even fights for it, but the problem could not be solved by fighting. Literally, what should we understand by the words, "In the beginning was the Word", what is this beginning? When contemporary philosophers want to discuss a certain philosophical question they make some assumptions; they take something like a principle and in this way they explain a certain thing. For example, a black preacher was explaining the creation of man (1) in the following way: "God worked hard all day and made the man from dust, placed him on a rack and dried him for three more days." Some of the listeners, however, asked him, "Then what holds up the rack?" "This is none of your business," said the preacher. Contemporary philosophers as well as the preacher each have a rack on which they dry the Word and man, solve questions and say, Man is made from dust and is dried on a rack." If you ask them about the rack, they will say, "It is none of your business." But because this rack is along the road on which we are going, we are stopping to circle around it. An evangelical preacher was talking about the prophet Jonah, and said, "The whale worked and strained a whole hour until he finally swallowed Jonah." In the same way, we sit for hours in order to solve the question, but it is still an enigma to us. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Here the main thought is the Word. What should we understand by the word Word? This is that rational act of God, expressed in certain vibrations that we can perceive. That means that when things start to be visible, touchable, open to the human mind, something, which is formulated, understandable to us, we call this the Word. For example, you say something – that is a word. The word love – how many elements does it have, how many letters does it consist of? It has six (2) letters. If you could separate those elements, you would find what Love is made of in regards to people, i.e. not in its primary sense, but as it appears. If we arrive at the very sense of what is Word, what is God, those people who want to resolve the question will come to the exact opposite conclusion. You cannot define something that has no form in itself. God is something without form, so we cannot define Him. Just what is God, tell me! To determine what God is you have to put constraints on Him, to put Him in a form and look from a human prospective in a certain position and place. Those who write about God and the Word think they have explained the question. They explain it, but just like the black preacher and the evangelical pastor, either on the rack, or in the mouth of a whale. This, however, is not an explanation. It is written, In the beginning. By these words, I comprehend that rational act when all beings, created by God, became conscious of the fact that He created, and they started working alongside Him. I will use an analogy: let us say a mother gives birth to a child, and she says, "The beginning of my child has started." The beginning of her child has started, but not the one of the rational child. What does this beginning look like? Screaming and crying, from which no one understands what the baby wants to say. The beginning that is spoken about in the Bible is rational. When the child becomes 21 years of age and starts to think, then we could state that this is the beginning of his rational life, i.e. when there is a correct exchange of thoughts between the mother and the child. Therefore, In the beginning was the Word means that beginning when we start understanding God, i.e. when we have stopped bawling before God. For ages and ages, people have cried and asked this and that. To clarify my words in a scientific way, I will point out that these are all phases of the Life through which this human child has been going. Thus, this beginning went through billions of forms, starting with the smallest. Since the child was always crying, God had to sew him new clothes all the time, i.e. to transfer him into a bird at one moment, or into a mammal at another. If it comes to the point that this self-willed child understands the beginning, this means the Word has come into him. That is why the Evangelist says, "The beginning is marked into the book of Heaven as a reasonable form of system and order." Everybody begins with disorder; everybody begins with mud that has been dried on the rack. But, when you get down from the rack and stand up on your feet, it will be written in Heaven about you, In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God – and this beginning is already in man's head. I will explain when this beginning starts by another analogy: imagine that you go against the flow of a river towards its source, you reach it and then you say that the beginning of the river comes from such and such source and you stop there. Yes, this is the beginning, and no philosopher can say it is not. Here is the visible beginning, but there are other beginnings as well, about which we do not know. Perhaps this water has been taken from the ocean, wandered into space as steam and has fallen as rain; perhaps it has moved through the earth strata and reached the spring and so on. Therefore, we say this river begins from such and such source, but only in the ordinary sense. "In the beginning was the Word" means that reasonable Beginning of all humankind, when this Word appeared in the present form which we can see that it exists. Of course, now you are far from that Beginning. Millions of years have passed since then, and everything has become muddled. Now I will give you another comparison. If you read "The Epistle of Paul the Apostle to the Galatians", you will see that it speaks about the Fruit of Love. Take a piece of fruit and assume there is only one seed in it. Whenever you sow it, that will be the beginning of its development. Then if you ask the tree when its beginning started, the tree will answer you, "At such and such time, when the seed was sown". Therefore, if somebody asks you what you were in the past, you may answer that you were a seed, which God sowed in the ground to germinate, to branch out, to bloom, to bear fruit, which will become ripe. Our reasonable Life is like a tree. And this reasonable Beginning is set in our head now. The body shows how many millions of years man has flowed away from this Beginning affected by the strength of the drive toward the Earth. The head is the symbol of the primary Beginning, when man was sown. Now I will not go to great lengths to explain all this, since for many people it is very complicated. I will not dwell on the primary state of the world and the forces, which acted upon it; I will not dwell on that primary intelligence which was at work, etc. These are abstract things, and even the greatest philosophers have been silent about them. When the great Egyptian master Hermes was asked about this, he only pressed his lips together. What did he want to say? This means man should leave his body to go out to investigate things at the place itself. And when it is said that somebody keeps silence, I interpret this silence as, "Go out, go to that place, and investigate it." For example, somebody asks me where the springs of Maritsa (3) are and I explain to him, but he cannot understand me; at the end, I tell him to keep silent and he will understand. That was what Hermes wanted to say. Somebody will ask me how it is possible. If you ask, you are not for this place. You are still children who build their houses; you are interested in toys and dolls. Many millions of years should pass until you rise to the level to think over this deep question. Those of you who can understand me will press their lips together, and I will tell them, "Come with me so we can go there." In this way I have already explained this question philosophically. As soon as they press their lips together, this is a practical solution to the question, not a theoretical one. When people ask me what was the Beginning, what was the Word at that moment long ago, I call on them: "Let's go there!" "We cannot". In that case, play with your toys on Earth – whether you build houses, get married, go into business, or make war. Only when you go through all this process of development, when you grow up, become cleverer and say, "Down with dolls!" – then a Master will be found who will press his lips together and will say, "Come with me". Those people who want to follow Christ's way should have a certain view of Truth. Do not think that it can be obtained very easily; do not think that the way you are going now is easy. No, there are difficulties. I do not say that it is extremely difficult, but there are big difficulties. The person who decides to go this way should be ready for them. Nature always puts before us big hindrances as well – small beams, which we should always use until we are ready for the long trip. The question is not only to go but to arrive as well. But you walk for a day, two, three, and after that you say that nothing will come of it, and you go back. And when people ask you what news you bring, you say, "Leave it; that is a waste of time". Only when you go to that Eternal source from where human Life has begun, where the Word was primary, you will understand the form of humanity of that time; you will understand what the sons of men were. And that, which we call the image of God, is a caricature for the people of the Earth. When I look to the people who say they were made in the image of God, I laugh a lot, because I see in front of me only fake people, and their thoughts, minds and hearts are completely ruined. The picture, which should have the image of God has been ruined, it is not the same as it was. When the Word, by which all things were created, saw that what It did in the image of God had been transformed into caricature, It sent Christ to come down from the Invisible world to the visible word and to say to the deluded men, "Stop lying. What you have now is not the image of God, it is your image". Someone will object, "In the beginning I was created by God, I was born from Him." How were you born from God? That Beginning was clear and pure in itself, but now there are some alloys in you. So, to be able to understand the deep meaning of the doctrine, which has been preached by Christ, we should purify ourselves. However, the word purifying also means to become lighter, which is a process of organizing, i.e. the rational process in our structure. The physical comes from the law, which says that there is a collision between the forces in Nature. There is a certain force in us, some aspiration to come closer to God, but simultaneously there is another beginning as well, which pulls us to the Earth. Therefore, our head is connected with Heaven and draws us upwards, but our body draws us down to the Earth. In this way we are crucified. However, how can a man think when crucified? When we die, a Nicodemus should come to take the nails out, take us down from the Cross, wrap us in a shroud, and when we become lighter, we will rise up. This is the Resurrection. The Resurrection is an act, in which we start to see things in their proper place, we start going back to the Word, to God. Now, you want me to tell you about God. What should I tell you when you are still crucified; you have not become lighter yet. You say, "Tell us about Love." What can I tell you about it when you are crucified and in pain? The only thing I can say to a crucified man is to bear, to suffer, and to become a hero in the suffering. I can give him this consolation only. This is the freedom people have – they should go through the process of suffering, of which Christ Himself was an example. Christ put in our brain the Beginning of the Word. The Word is an act of God in the Spiritual world, the Word implies Angels. Thus, first of all Angels come from God and God is in them. When the Evangelist says, "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us", he understands that after the Angels the Word comes down, takes another form and enters into man. When we speak about the Word that was with God in the beginning and was God, we understand all the Beings that have gone through an evolution different from that of people. They are something great, Sons of thought, of the rational – these are the ones. This does not mean they have the same form we have, but it means they are Rational beings. Then, when Christ became incarnate on our Earth, He came to preach that Word in clear speech. Our speech is a translation of the Word. I have spoken about the real translation of words more than once. For example, if somebody asks you what word is a translation of the word river, what words are translations of the words spring, light, warmth, we will answer: light is the translation of Truth, warmth is the translation of Love, and that there is some correlation between the words. We will answer that just as light illuminates external objects, Truth illuminates internally the human mind. We will answer that as warmth helps plants to grow, Love, when entering into us, puts in motion those feelings that make man sprout and grow. Those who want to know what the primary form of the Word was should make the correct translation. Of course, in the Bulgarian language the word Word has one meaning, and in Greek, in which this Gospel phrase was written, has a slightly different meaning. In Greek, this word begins with l – Logos, but in Bulgarian, the word begins with c (4). This fact shows as well that the Greek and the Bulgarian nations are not in the same place, in the same field. When the word Logos was written in Greek, Hellenes had aspiration upward to the Angels, but our letter c is a symbol of a half-moon, which means that we are situated on the backside of the Astral world, so we do not have light and that is why we take it as reflected from the Moon. Therefore, we can say according to the Word that the Slavs are people who are going down, but they have reached the deepest place possible, and now they are going to start their new evolution. This is the reason why I cannot explain to you and you cannot understand the Word – because in your brains, in your minds, the Moon is still shining; images, figures, everything is vague in you. However, when the daylight comes and when Christ comes in a new form, everything will be bright and clear. So, by the word Word I understand that wise Beginning, which creates and makes in us thoughts, desires, and actions. And now we should return to that Beginning. All contradictions in personal life and between the nations will disappear only when we return to it. The way to return to it is to become lighter. If a river, which flows down from its springs and goes to the sea, asks me what it should do to return back into its beginning, I will answer that it should evaporate, become lighter, rise into the air in order to be gone with the wind again to the spring, to the head, from which it had started flowing. I am telling you as well that you should apply the same law. This is the law of self-denial. That is why Christ says, "If you do not deny yourself and do not follow Me, you will not be saved." You should deny yourself of material things, houses, children, with which we are tied as if by thousands of ropes. You say that you want to go to God. You will never go to Him, if you do not cut off the ropes that connect you. Preachers and priests preach about Heaven, but they are all tied. Do not talk! You lie to the world. You are teaching from the Moon and you see things with the Moon's light. When the Sun rises in your mind, then you will have another understanding about the world and Life; you will see how wrong your viewpoints were. That is why self-denial means to become lighter. Some say that they cannot deny themselves. All right, but they go down the slope and to the oceans. There is not another way – either climb up, or roll down. In order to rise, to become lighter, the Sun should shine inside us. The Moon cannot evaporate us; quite the opposite, it is often the reason for steam to condense. By the same analogy it is said about the Sun and the Moon in the first chapter of "Genesis" that God created these two beginnings and that in them all the Truth is hidden: the Moon is a process of going down to the Earth, while the Sun is a process of ascending up to God. The setting of the Sun implies going down, while its rising implies a process of new evolution. That is why the Moon tells you every twenty-eight days the story of your descent. If you ask yourself why you got down, why you cannot think, why you have no will, the Moon will answer you. All its phases will tell you the reason of your descent. Then someone will ask how he can rise and go to God. Get up in the morning when the Sun is rising; look at God and you will find the way. Some people consider that they always have to think about God. No, you may have one thought, but maybe certain conditions have to be met in order for it to start working. Embryos of your salvation are set up, but you will rise up only when they begin to operate. They say that Christ came to save the world. Save it in what way? When Christ came, all embryos that were sitting for millions of years, let us say, in a potential and frozen condition, defrosted under that layer of ice and emerged from the ice age. I will not launch out into explanations now that at one time the Earth passed through an ice age. Even in the spiritual life, this age takes place often. If the Moon shines in your mind I will say that you are in the ice age – your pre-flood animals have vanished, vegetation has stopped developing and you have only a minimum life – as much as the Moon gives to you. If you ask me what you should do, I will tell you that the Sun must shine on you, Christ must rise in your spirit, He must appear on your horizon, and influence you through His rays of Truth. Now you may tell me that Christ will come. Yes, He will come indeed. However, when He comes, where will you be – on the Equator or at the North Pole, in the temperate zone or at the South Pole? You should take into consideration your position and assess how Christ's rays will fall into your soul – vertically or at an angle. All of us should come to the place where God needs to meet us, i.e. in the Divine land. If you were clairvoyant, you would see that there was another land as well. If I decided to explain to you the concept the occultists have about the Earth, the movement of spheres, you would say that it would be better not to know all of these things, because you would be caught up in a large contradiction. I will tell you why. When radium was discovered, scientists were afraid and began to claim that all current theories and views would fail, that they should be wholly revised. Therefore, it will be better for science not to deal with this element. But I say, when Christ's radium comes, you should revise your point of view and your life fundamentally and radically. So, in the verse we quoted, John addresses those who understand. This is the deepest question in the Gospel. Those people for whom it was written understood it. One day you will begin to understand it as well. If you say that your mind is confused, I will give you some consolation, "The Moon is still shining on you". When the Sun shines on you, that question should be clear for you, if only you are honest and you are in the place where God decided to put you. According to these laws the conditions for your growth will surely come, you only have to wait. Those for whom God has risen should deny themselves, become lighter, not to roll down the hill. To say this in philosophical terms, your thoughts should have meaning. Your thoughts should have a goal as well, the goal for which you strive. A Christian who wants to fulfill his responsibilities should know why everything has happened. For example, children are born. Why? You say that God has so ordered it. Do you know that God ordered it that way? Even drunkards can say, "God gave wine so that we can drink it". Did He actually make it, or did we? God created grapes, but wine is our invention. In the same manner, you take flour and knead a loaf, but did God determine that you do so? No, it is your invention. You put two stones together to grind grain, but did God determine grain to be ground into flour? No, this is your will, because you cannot grind the wheat grains in your stomach. That is why, when people say that this is true, that is true, you should ask them: "Is this a Divine Truth or is it your truth?" – "But I preach Christ". You preach your Christ. "But I preach God." You preach your God; do not lie to me! I say, I am neither lied to, nor do I lie. Everybody preaches his Christ, his God. When a girl falls in love with a boy, he is an Angel for her, she is dying for him, but when they get married, she begins to argue that he is a devil and she is dying because of him. Who is right in this case? So we say in the life we have we are ready to die for our Christ, but when we get married to the Lord and when we see that He is not what we expected, we do not want Him and we claim He is false. Thus, when we say In the beginning was the Word, which word do we mean? Is it the word, according to our understanding or the primary Word, which is the foundation for all people? Is it that Beginning which supports all of us, so that we are connected like one common organism and drinking the same sap, or some other parasitical beginning? Each of you should first resolve the question and should know in which beginning you are. You will say, "But I know". I am always hearing the same thing – the man says "I", the woman says "I", everybody says, "There is nobody like me", "I am great". But I see that he is only five centimeters of the tree, and someone else is only a leaf. Autumn will come soon, you will fall from the tree, you will go to the roots, and then you will understand that there is another beginning – one is above, while the other is below. So, each of you should know where this beginning is – is it in the root or in the trunk; is it in the large or in the small branches; is it in the leaves; is it in an unripe or ripe fruit, or in its seed. If you say that it is in the seed of the ripe fruit, I will say, "You are now a person who should get going to check out the primary Beginning John talks about". If you say you are in the leaves, then you should wait for many millions of years. "But I am in the unripe fruit". You should wait as well, until you ripen. "But I am already going to seed". Great, but a storm may come, you would not endure and suddenly you would fall down from the tree to the ground. Because the seed still does not have life in it, according to that law, you should decay, go through the roots, through the trunk, and grow upward again and start a new life. If we had more time, I would dwell on the question about the fruit falling. Many people urge me, "Tell us where we were once upon a time." I know where and what sort of a person you were, I may speak about this, but do I know what you will tell me. Someone will say, "If this is true, it is a big lie." And when it is told to someone outside, he would say, "It is a big lie". But a lie is the shadow of Truth. You can lie until you have the truth, i.e. in order to lie to someone you should lie to him about a certain truth. The lie is a companion of Truth. Where there is Truth, there is a lie as well and vice verse. However, let me come back to the question. How should we apply this rational principle within us? Someone will say this is a force that always acts. What do you understand by force that acts? In the mind of contemporary scientists, this is much undetermined. They say it is a power, which develops, but how? They say things are attracted and gathered together by the power, but how? Two people hold their hands and they are attracted; a magnet draws up shavings. This is all right, but there should be some correlation within the attraction. That inner power should draw our thoughts and feelings to the reasonable Beginning. To get to know if we are drawn by this reasonable Beginning, if we are set free from the Earth, we should feel when the contradictions in us cease. This is a sign that we are going in the right way to the Beginning. Until there is a fight, we are between the two principles and we look like a traveler who has lost orientation of the four cardinal directions, and instead of going east, he goes west, and he can orient himself only when the Sun rises. Someone may say, "The end has come." The end of what has come? When a student finishes high school, does he die? No, it is the end of his studies at school and the beginning of his entering into the world. Do you know what the word end primarily meant? This is a courageous, smart, and skilful person, who knows how to work, who can bear everything. Even now, when people say, "His end has come", this means his work has been finished. When you come to the end of the cloth that you are weaving, you will take it down from the loom and you will begin to cut it, i.e. the end of the weaving should be the beginning of your clothing. When you dress up and people praise you for the nice garment, do not be proud of it, because you did not make it. Do not be proud, but thank the tailor who succeeded in cutting the garment and in making it. There are some people who, when praised in such a way, think this refers to them. No, the praise is for the tailor, and they are only his advertisement. If your garment is sown badly, if it is twisted, you will say that you do not want to go to this tailor anymore. For example, people say to someone, "You have noble thoughts", and he starts imagining he is something great and he becomes proud of himself. Wait, these are not your thoughts. Give thanks to the One who gave them to you and did not lie to you. If there is a storm in your mind, will you be able to know where you are to go? No, you will not be able to know. Unclear ideas rule your minds as well. You say that Christ is a principle. A principle means beginning, head, or source. When you go to that spring, you may already taste pure water. If we draw from Christ's source, if we drink from this water of Life, our thoughts and desires will certainly become clearer. Then another result will follow as well: our bodies will develop as they should, suffering and pain will disappear, we will have correct understanding, we will be able to speak useful things to people and to quench the thirst of the thirsty. Christ said to those women, "The water which I will give you will be a spring gushing forth inside the soul". You are coming here to drink from this spring every morning as well. This is all right, but I who like to tell the Truth, who do not like to lie or to be lied to, I want everyone to have a pipe from this abundant spring from which I draw, to lay a pipe to your yard and, when the times come, to open the tap and to drink. I am talking to those of you who want to be Christ's disciples. They should lay a pipe at least one centimeter in length. And when the world gets into a state of siege and people are thirsty, your pipe will give you water and you will not be thirsty. The spring will be in your soul – this is the beginning as well as the end. Do you know what the end is? When you build up a small fountain in your house from the spring – this is the end of things. So, we should consider our thoughts and desires as if they were given to us. It is only necessary for us to use them. Every thought comes and goes; you cannot hold it. Do you think that you can hold your thoughts and desires? No, just as food goes through you, according to the same law our spiritual thoughts come and go. They are forms that carry certain saps of Life. Use the saps hidden in them, and scatter the pollen out into the open space that should be filled up again. If you hold them in the bottle too long, the saps will go off and God will hold you responsible for that. Some want to be rich with thoughts, but it would be easy for others to get their hand in and rob them. Like money, thoughts do not have a master, but they know the person who has them. Someone could reach into your head and steal your thoughts. He may reach into your heart and grab your desires. For example, a young girl loses her heart and begins to languish, or somebody's thoughts are taken and he goes mad. Why? – Because they do not understand the basic law that every thought and desire is sent from the Invisible world in order to be used, and afterwards to be released into the world. When there is movement, when there is an exchange of thoughts and desires, then there is enrichment as well. In return for thoughts and desires that we transmit we will receive the relevant saps of Life. That is why Christ says, "I am the Life." What is essential for us is Life. Thus, we should put all our thoughts and desires to work in order to acquire Life. When we acquire it, we will be free citizens and will go to that Beginning, to the Eternal spring where we can quench our thirst. When somebody dies people say, "He went to the world beyond". If the seed is ripe, he will go to the other world, but if it is not ripe, he will drop near the trunk, near the root and will not go there. Somebody says that he is ripe. If you are truly ripe, God will come, will pick the fruit, and will take it to a good place. Therefore, everybody should ask himself if his seed is ripe. Now you may say, "I believe in Christ." Fine. "He will save me." This is good as well, but you will be dropping near the trunk of the tree for a long time, while your seed ripens inside you. Only when it ripens will you have spiritual Freedom. The only wealth a man can take from Earth to Heaven is this small embryo. When he goes to Heaven, man will begin to sow it for a new life, because the same school is there and you will work there as well. When advanced science is taught there, how will you understand it, if you do not have the ability, if you have not learned to guide your thoughts and desires on Earth? If you want to understand Christ's teaching and to be in the situation of the criminal, hung on His right, whom Christ said, "Today you will be with Me in Paradise", you should work. Some may say that they are also crucified. Yes, but on which side? If you are on the left side, I am sorry for you; you with your suffering will not go to Heaven. If you are crucified on the right side, I am glad, because your deliverance has come. Everybody crucified on the right side – teachers, priests, philosophers, kings – will be saved, but if you are crucified on the left side, you will go back to work in this world. Such is the law of God. The Beginning is the right side; this is Christ. That means you are reasoning according to the law of God in order to apply it to Life and not to be of two minds. Some who listen to me say to themselves, "What should we listen to, to what the church says, or to what this man preaches?" In this case, you, my friend, have two heads. If the church and I are preaching and teaching Divine Truth, there cannot be any contradiction and the results should always be the same. In other words, if we act according to the law of God, the apple planted by a priest will grow up in the same way as the apple planted by me. One should look only at the results of our actions. Why do you doubt – you have a candle, by which you can see if I am saying Truth. Someone meets me and asks me if I am black or white. But you have a candle, look! "But I cannot see." Then, you are in the dark. I know you and I can see who you are. For example, you are an evangelical; you say that there is no faith like your faith. Then how is it that you do not know Truth? My friend, you are a person, who lies both to himself and to others as well. Truth has only one image, and it is harmony, self-denial, Virtue, Wisdom, Righteousness. When you get this image, you will have reliable Peace, Calm, and Power. Then the world could be upset, the sea could be surging, but you will be quiet, calm and free like birds flying with their wings. If your right or left wing is damaged, you will collapse with your head down on Earth. And the Earth says, "Whoever has only one wing will stay with me." Sinners are birds who have one wing only. Devils say, "We need people with one wing", but Christ says, "I need people with two wings." We have two hands – right and left – and if we could have controlled the laws about making matter thinner, we would have been able to fly with them, rise, and be free to leave our body whenever we wish. Now, you are afraid of death and you say, "Devils are bad spirits, they will hinder us." What can they do to you, when they are limited by the same law? If we control both wings and if Christ is inside us, we should not be afraid of anything. Our fear shows that we are not with God. The Scriptures say, "Perfect love casts out all fear." If you are afraid, Love is not inside you. Now you ask yourselves how Christ will save us. What strange people you are! When you sow the grain of wheat, your salvation has come and there will be no lean years any more. You want to be like Angels. How can you be, when you are not sown and you have not sprouted? Angels fly like birds, and you are plants; then how will you be transformed so quickly? Do you know how many forms you should go through! By the word forms I mean the forces which you should control. In order to have the ability to change a form, you should know the forces that act inside it, because they limit you. You are limited – for example, you should eat three times per day and if you do not eat, you will not be in a good mood; if you do not drink, you will lose your mood as well. Someone says, "I am strong." You are strong for three days only. "I am a patriot." If you are kept hungry for three days, you will begin to think differently and will ask for bread. We should acquire the living bread; we should not take it from the Earth only. For us the Earth is a moneylender. All moneylenders and all bad spirits are placed in such positions, and they say, "We will give you bread, but you should pay us such and such amount!" You should become clever. Whenever ten wise men appear, they will tie this devil and they will say, "This grain is given to us by our Father above." Therefore, in order rightly to get what is sent for you from above, you should have a pure mind and a pure heart. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God. Let us ask ourselves if this Beginning is with us, if we are with God and if God is with us. I do not say you are not with God. I even maintain with certainty that you exist, live, and move in God, but God is not with all of you. One could be a dried root and the saps of the tree may function, but not penetrate him. If you are a dried root, of what use is Christ to you? We should not only be in God, but God should be inside our mind and our heart as well. Now, what did you understand from today's lecture? Remember the following thing, which is important for you from a practical point of view: everybody should build one small pipe from that spring into your yard, and from now on should not disturb either me, or the priests. You say that our priests do not preach. They are not porters. Make a fountain and drink. You say that the priests are bad. Why? – Because they do not give us water. Build a fountain from the spring to your home and let us stop talking about this Eastern problem (5). When you build a tap from this spring, all disputes will disappear. The English scientist Drummond (6) said that we constantly consume three elements: two of them are air and water, which God gave to us for free, but the third element is food, for which we permanently work. If we have become slaves in order to have only one of these three elements, what would have been our situation, if we had to obtain the other two elements in the same difficult way? Our situation would have been three times as difficult as it is now. One day, when we become wiser, God will give us the third element as well and then we will be free people. We are in the third stage of our development now. Christ solved the problem, and He says, "I am the living bread." When He comes into us like living bread, we all will be free – men, women, children, priests, and teachers – and then, we will start doing greater works, as God has determined for us. Now, we only discuss politics – who has more, who has less. Now everything, including wars, is based on bread, and when someone has all the bread he needs, he wants to take the bread from others in order to have more. Christ says, "I am the living bread, I will solve the problem. I will be the Beginning." The beginning of what? – Of freedom, of reasonable life, of reasonable achievements, of transforming the world. This is the Beginning. Therefore, whenever you want to work with Jesus Christ, unite yourself with that Beginning. When you are united, you will have all that is needed, Christ's Power will be your power as well, and all the people of the world who are on the right side of Christ will be your friends. Then all of you will be united, you will go with a candle to look for your brothers, and Christ will give you advice about what you should do with your friends on the left side. You will come again to the Earth to help them, while all, those who are on the right side as well as those who are on the left, go back to Heaven to be one with Christ. This is the Beginning, this is the Word and this is God of Whom I am preaching to you this morning. And this living Word, which builds, exalts and transforms the world, is inside you – this is the living Christ. _________________ 1) Man – the Bulgarian word chovek signifies a thinking and conscious human, without reference to gender. The current translation uses English equivalents such as person and one wherever possible. In certain instances the word man is used instead. The use of man, he, his, him in reference to chovek are used to facilitate the reading of the text, however they should be interpreted as an indication of both the feminine and masculine genders. 2) любовь – In the written Bulgarian language of the beginning of the 20th century the word любовь, which means love, consists of 6 letters. 3) Maritsa – river in Bulgaria and Turkey, which springs from Marichinite ezera (lakes), Rila Mountain. 4) C – in Bulgarian: Слово. 5) Eastern problem – problem of international politics. It began in 1453 when the Ottoman Army captured Constantinople. It was partially solved by the victory of the Christian countries over Turkey during the Balkan war in 1913, and finally – by concluding the peace treaty at the end of the First World War between the Triple Entente and Turkey in Mudros on October 30, 1918. 6) Drummond, Henry (1851-1897) – Scottish theological writer, revivalist, explorer, geologist. This lecture is a part of a twelve selected lectures. You can download all talks from here Translated by Doroteia Koparanova, Malinka Koparanova and Steftcho Koparanov Edited by Maria Braikova and Jana Rupchina Wb_translation_team@mail.bg Person for contact: Anelia Kuzmanova Note: This Team was created in Bulgaria in 2002 to work for spreading the Teaching given by Beinsa Douno - Peter Deunov /1864-1944/. We are pleased to share this Word with you in English, French, German and Spanish. All our members work for free and on a voluntary basis. 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Необходимо е доколкото жената продължително време е била подценявана, с ниска обществена и собствена оценка. Такова едно "повдигане" има смисъл доколкото балансира двете сили и им дава въможност да работят заедно по-ефективно. Освен това, астрологичната епоха на Водолея, в която се намира Земята в момента и в която ще бъде още около 2000 години, предполага значителна обществена роля на жените. Тук грешно разбраната еманципация водеща до загуба на женствеността няма нищо общо, разбира се. Жени - нужни сте на света
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Света в който живеем ежедневно ни поставя на ред изпитания и опасности. Очевидно това е част от съдбата ни - да рискуваме постоянно... Наскоро например се оказа, че сме се разминали с авария в атомна електроцентрала. Освен това се случват и най-различни други бедствия, над които нямаме директен контрол по никакъв начин. Тези събития - като всички други - се подчиняват на закона за причинно - следствената връзка или както е популярно да се говори, това е вид карма. Когато става въпрос за нещо, което сме заслужили с действията си в миналото, но което можем силно да смегчим или да избегнем, е подходяща духовната практика на ограждането. Според Учителя, за да избегне опасностите в пътя си, човек трябва да бъде концентриран и в постоянна молитва. При нея става въпрос за изграждане и постояно поддържане на духовна връзка с Разумния свят, която позволява Той да ни предпази от опасности, които сами не можем да предвидим и избегнем. Самата връзка донякъде "изплаща" негативната карма от една страна. От друга страна, тази връзка ни приобщава към едно по-високо от обикновеното ниво на вибрация, където "зоната на видимост" е далеч по-голяма от тази която нашето съзнание може да ни предостави. Ограждането или връзката могат да се постигнат най-вече с помощта на мисълта. Ето защо е от съществено значение какво мислим и в какво настроение се намираме, понеже в света на мисълта действа закона за привличане на подобното. Хармонията провлича хармония, объркването - объркване и т.н... Едно упражнение което може да ни свърже с Разумния сват е например упражнението "две интензивни минути", един метод за дишане, връзка с двете съзнания и други. Една подходяща формула за ограждане в момент на опасност е следната: "Без страх и без тъмнина, с мир и със светлина!" (добре е да се изкаже на глас или на ум три пъти) Така че, когато изпълнява духовни практики и упражнения, човек укрепва не само вътрешно, но и външно.
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Съдбата е нещо извън нашата сфера на пряко влияние. Но е нужно да бъдем будни и да предусещаме опасностите. Друго което е нужно - да правим точни преценки на възможносттите си. Случвало ми се е да се разминавам на косъм от сблъсък. Не по моя вина, но това е без значение... И след всеки подобен случай карам все по-предпазливо. Донякъде навика пречи на будността, понеже е лесно и удобно да вършиш нещата по навик, и човек не се уморява. Но навика води до спокойствие и усещане за сигурност и стабилност, кето твърде често е измамно... и по правило точно когато човек е най-спокоен и уверен в себе си, съзнанието му е приспано, преценките за собствените възможности - неверни, и той става уязвим. Решението на този въпрос на съзнателно ниво следва да се търси в различни методи и упражнения за поддържане на будност на съзнанието.
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Здравей Мекота, Аз лично постъпвам по следният начин: не обявявам предварително че искам вег. меню, а на място вече поръчвам нещо като за мен. Обявявам, че съм вегетарианец на интересуващите се и правя реклама на този начин на хранене, ако мога Номера е, че човек е настроен поитивно очаквайки храна и този момент е най-подходящ да откриеш различието си с достойнството на фронтмен .
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Наистина, велико изкуство е човек да запазва вътрешния си мир и разположение на духа при всички състояния, на които се натъква в живота. Преживяването и правилното осмисляне на противоположни състояния водят до придобиване на Мъдрост. Само светлият път на Мъдростта води към Истината. В Истината е скрит Живота!"
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Истинско е онова знание, което можем да приложим тук и сега и с негова помощ да направим най-малкото добро. Истинско е знанието, придобито с жив опит. В този смисъл между истинско знание и умение няма разлика. Истинските неща са постоянни и служат вечно
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Нещо по темата "Екология" и "Живата, разумна природа" от една беседа: Малкият стрък ИБ Мусалла 13.07.1925
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Здравейте, интересна тема За мен понятията "Религия" и "Духовна школа, Доховно учение" се различават съществено, въпреки че са разположени в една област. Духовните школи предоставят на човека "пряк" път към себе си и към реалността, като си служат чрез съответни практически методи и теоретичен апарат. Духовните школи обаче са достъпни само за активно търсещите. Докато религиите свеждат съкровеното познание до много по-широк кръг от хора, те не изискват висока активност, а само вяра и постоянство. Религиите по тази причина могат да обхванат много по-широк крък от последователи. За сметка на това, нивото на познания и дълбочината на практиките там са на "по-елементарно" - извинявам се за сравнението - ниво. Поради последната изложена особеност, като правило религиите имат изцяло затворена структура без никаква възможност за изграждане на мостове към други (дори и сходни) такива религии. Докато при дух. школи тази възможност е значително по- реализуема, макар и трудно. Като извод мога да кажа, че става въпрос за различни видове школи, всяка от които има своята роля и място в обществото ни. Всичко в света е разумно За нас остава да се включим по най-добрият достъпен ни начин в тази всеобща разумност.